Jeff Bagwell Can Wait For Hall

by Opinion

Sorry, Jeff, I’ve got to let your lifetime stats marinate for a while before I am completely convinced that you belong in the Hall of Fame.  Jeff Bagwell’s numbers are very good, many better than others that I advocate for inclusion, but numbers are not everything.

The long-time Houston Astros first baseman slugged 449 home runs in a 15-year career. Very good. He batted .297. Also very good. He knocked in 1,529 runs. Very, very good. But when it came to individual seasonal honors Bagwell did not rack up a whole bunch. Yes, he was a four-time All-Star and a three-time Silver Slugger Award winner, but many other players not on the Hall of Fame ballot did equally well, or even better.

Bagwell was the 1991 National League rookie of the year and he won the 1994 NL Most Valuable Player award. Good for him. But he only won one Gold Glove award. Not so good for him. He totaled 2,314 hits, good, but not great. He topped 40 homers in a season three times, with a high of 47 in 2000 and he did drive in more than 100 runs eight times, three times notching 130 or better. Also very good.

What would really have been interesting to see was how Bagwell might have finished his MVP season without a strike ending the year in August. He finished with a .368 average (Tony Gwynn was flirting with .400 that year), 39 home runs, 116 runs batted in and 104 runs scored. Mighty fine considering he had just 400 at-bats. In fact, Bagwell had a .750 slugging percentage in that truncated season. That’s Babe Ruth territory. Some might say Bagwell was a victim of bad luck with the season ending early. However, he was already a victim of bad luck because he broke his hand the day before the strike started and he probably would not have played the rest of the season anyway. So the fact that everyone’s season ended early benefited him and highlighted his phenomenal season.

I think it possible that Bagwell’s candidacy for the Hall will mature with time and he might get in eventually, but not on the first ballot as voted on by the Baseball Writers Association of America by Saturday for the class of 2012 in Cooperstown.

Bagwell spent his whole career with the Astros, which most of the time did nothing special in the standings. He grew up in the Boston area and was originally drafted by the Red Sox. Trying for an immediate pennant the Sox made the mistake of shipping Bagwell to the Astros for relief pitcher Larry Anderson in 1990, and I don’t care if Bagwell becomes a Hall of Famer or not, that is one whopping boo-boo in talent judgment. Where was Theo Epstein when the Red Sox needed him? Oh, probably in junior high.

Bagwell appeared on the Hall of Fame ballot for the first time last year and attracted 41.7 percent of the vote with 75 percent needed to be elected. Many players have added to their vote totals throughout the years as time passed, keeping their scores above the five percent threshold to remain on the ballot for up to 15 years.

However, when Bagewell’s name first came up for review there was some whispering in the blogosphere (if whispering is possible in that forum) that maybe his power stemmed from performance-enhancing drugs. He did play during the steroids era, but I do not recall any hint that he was an abuser when he was playing and it seems unfair for such an issue to be raised now without a shred of proof.

Bagwell is not first on my list among contending candidates this year, but depending who the competition is in a given year I can picture the day when he does become a Hall of Famer.

Be sure to check out Lew’s other Hall of Fame profiles.

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humpajumpa 5 pts

do you actually get to vote for hall entry? must be that Biggio can wait, too. you don't vote on what could have been. are you a boston fan that missed out on Bags playing for the sox? who did you vote for in 2011, and who will you vote for in 2012 that truly had better careers than Bags? some of those other 1st basemen during his career got more attention than he, merely due to playing on contending teams more often. mantle got in for his own accomplishments, with health problems and personal drinking problems, but he was due as much for the success of the bottomless pockets of the yankees. houston has always gotten the shaft rather than the accolades. this is an individual award, not a team award. he doesn't need to wait. what are the real credentials for entering the hall? there's not been one viable report of Bags using drugs, not one. and, what could have been in 1994, his mvp season over all others, or his other years, all with houston, why should that be his downfall?

FrankReino 6 pts

This analysis is nonsense. Bagwell was one of the most dominant players of his era. Sure, he doesn't have as many awards as some hall of famers, but the guy who finishes second or third or even 10th of 700+ players every year during his career for MVP voting but never wins, is a hall of famer in my mind. Bagwell was in the top 10 for most of his career in MVP votes and put up huge numbers in an era where many of his adversaries were proven to be using PEDs. Bagwell hasn't been proven to use and denies it. Therefore, its only fair to give him the credit his numbers deserve. (and maybe some more credit considering we know guys like Bonds who won many MVPs during Bagwell's prime years was definitely cheating). Bagwell is a HOFer.

Also, to say he will get in some day to me makes no sense when saying he doesn't deserve it now?!? Do HOF standards sink over time? No. True: HOF classes may be weak, like they are this year, which is why Bagwell stands out. Seriously, if you had the first pick in a draft of their primes, would you really take Barry Larkin, Alan Trammel, Tim Raines over Jeff Bagwell? NO YOU WOULDN'T!
If he's going to be a HOFer in your opinion, he deserves it now! Why wait? Its illogical. Granted, first ballot HOFer deserves a special designation for those that accomplished something many HOFers never do (record HRs, 3000+ hits etc)...but after the first ballot, if you think a player will be a HOFer...why not vote for him?

SorianoJoe 40 pts

Bagwell used steroids, but he's still a Hall of Fame player. 83.9 WAR, 149 wRC+, .408 OBP, 449 HRs, 202 SBs, 59.1 Fld (that's good), and a 14.9 BB%. Those are Hall of Fame numbers Lew.

FrankReino 6 pts

SorianoJoe He did? You have proof? Please share it since nobody else has proof! (Idiot)

SorianoJoe 40 pts

FrankReino there is no proof, but there is quite a bit of evidence pointing into his direction if you did some research. admittedly, we don't really know, but he's still a hofer for sure even if he took roids; you can't magically become that great of a hitter and play solid d. the comment was a bit out of line in this regard, because nobody has proof haha. in any case, i do very much agree with you and i really dont care if he took steroids. the people who do have proof of whether he did or didnt havent come out with it yet, because if he did take roids; they benefitted from it. doe scott servais ring a bell? yeah, we put too much into being a first ballot hofer; all that matters is that we get the guys who deserve it into the hall of fame. the flaws are in the bbwa, i questoin their collective baseball knowledge.

astrosince1975 15 pts

I am in agreement with Frank. Joe can you please explain the Scott Servais reference for me.

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  1. [...] Lew gave us a good break down of why Bagwell may not be a fit for the Hall just yet, and it had absolutely nothing to do with steroids.  I’m perfectly fine with that.  However, there have been enough rumors and whispers and writers flat out accessing Bagwell of using steroids, that no matter his numbers he will struggle. [...]