Milwaukee Brewers: Who Won Orioles Schoop, Villar Trade?

MILWAUKEE, WI - APRIL 8: Bernie Brewer in the stands at Miller Park during a game between the Cincinnati Reds and the Milwaukee Brewers on April 8, 2001 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. (Photo by Ronald C. Modra/Sports Imagery/Getty Images)
MILWAUKEE, WI - APRIL 8: Bernie Brewer in the stands at Miller Park during a game between the Cincinnati Reds and the Milwaukee Brewers on April 8, 2001 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. (Photo by Ronald C. Modra/Sports Imagery/Getty Images)
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The Milwaukee Brewers traded INF Jonathan Villar and prospects (P Luis Ortiz and INF Jean Carmona) to the Baltimore Orioles for 2B Jonathan Schoop on the July 31 deadline to boost their playoff run. The Brewers hope Schoop will help in the short-term while the Orioles hope their haul will help in the long-term.

Most mid-season deadline trades are between a team like the Milwaukee Brewers looking for immediate help and a team like the Orioles looking for future strength. A true reading of this trade and others like it cannot be determined until after the prospects involved have time to develop.

For Instance, the Brewers traded Carlos Lee to the Texas Rangers back in 2006 for RHP Francisco Cordero. Cordero had recently lost his closer job with Texas, but the Brewers knew there was talent there and accepted a couple outfields. Those outfielders never made a mark for Milwaukee.

Cordero ended up being a decent closer  with the Brewers, and Carlos Lee greatly helped the Rangers as a rental. The difference-maker in the trade was the prospect the Brewers sent to the Rangers.

Brewers prospect Nelson Cruz developed into a valuable power hitter who made two All-Star games while with Texas. Trades can have a funny way of biting teams when prospects are involved.

Other times, trading prospects for playoff help works for both teams.

The Brewers sent SS Alcides Escobar, RHP Jeremy Jeffress, OF Lorenzo Cain, and RHP Jake Odorizzi for RHP Zack Greinke and SS Yuniesky Betancourt in 2011.

Greinke helped the Brewers all the way to Game 6 of the NLCS before falling to the St Louis Cardinals.

In hindsight, the Royals also made out very well in the deal. Escobar and Cain would end up winning two AL Pennants and a World Series as starters with the Royals.

Currently, many fans in the Milwaukee are a bit upset with the early return on Schoop while Orioles fans have gotten good production from Jonathan Villar. And, what are the expectations of Luis Ortiz and Jean Carmona?

MILWAUKEE, WI – SEPTEMBER 09: Jonathan Schoop  (Photo by Jon Durr/Getty Images)
MILWAUKEE, WI – SEPTEMBER 09: Jonathan Schoop  (Photo by Jon Durr/Getty Images) /

Jonathan Schoop With Milwaukee Brewers

Brewers General Manager David Stearns had a lot in mind when he traded for Jonathan Schoop.

Schoop’s contract extends into 2019 so he is not just a rental player. That is the reason the Brewers had to give up two key prospects along with Villar to acquire Schoop.

Schoop struggled during his first weeks with his new team. He had to adjust after spending his whole career in the AL with the Orioles.

Still, Brewers fans initially had feelings of buyers remorse. And, for good reason.

Schoop hit over 1.000 OPS with Orioles in July and was coming off being named Player of the Week for the AL upon his debut with the Brewers in August. During August, however, Schoop’s OPS tumbled to just ..612 with the Brewers.

Fans and journalists in Milwaukee expressed new optimism for Schoop when he hit a big grand slam off of Madison Bumgarner. But Schoop has only maintained a .522 OPS during September as of the 15th.

On the positive side, Schoop’s mere presence in Milwaukee’s batting order extends its power potential. The Brewers offensive attack looks especially intimidating when they use what 3B Travis Shaw calls their “goal-line package.” 

“This was the big-boy infield tonight,” Shaw continued about having him and Schoop playing with Mike Moustakas. “It pushes everyone down [the order] and makes our lineup extremely deep.”

The acquisition of Jonathan Schoop helps Milwaukee in another way. Because Schoop’s contract goes through 2019, Schoop can help the Brewers next season too.

The Brewers top prospect is 2B Keston Hiura. He is not believed to be ready for a complete major league season until 2020.

Furthermore, Milwaukee has prospect INF Mauricio Dubon who the Brewers called up in 2018 before he suffered a season-ending injury. No one knows how much or how effective Dubon might be in 2019.

Moustakas will likely leave as a free agent, but that will still leave the Brewers with a great infield that includes Shaw at third, Orlando Arcia at shortstop, Schoop at second, and breadout run-producer Jesus Aguilar at first.

Therefore, beyond what Schoop can give the Brewers going forward, he has a chance to contribute as a place-holder for prime Milwaukee prospects next season.

BALTIMORE, MD – SEPTEMBER 11: Jonathan Villar (Photo by Greg Fiume/Getty Images)
BALTIMORE, MD – SEPTEMBER 11: Jonathan Villar (Photo by Greg Fiume/Getty Images) /

Jonathan Villar With the Baltimore Orioles

Halfway through September 2018, Villar’s counting stats have equaled in Baltimore what they were in twice as many at-bats with the Brewers.

For instance, Villar had 14 SB with the Brewers in 87 games, and 13 SB with the Orioles in just 40 games.

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Furthermore, Villar has been consistently in the lineup and hitting leadoff for the Orioles. He lost his starting job at second base in Milwaukee.

Villar might never return to putting up the All-Star-quality numbers he did in 2016 when he led the league in steals for the Brewers, but he remains a positive WAR player for the Orioles.

Luis Ortiz and Jean Carmona went from the Brewers to Orioles in this trade as well. They could have some influence in the quality of this trade for the teams in the future. Both of these players ranked as top 30 prospects in a deep Brewers minor league pipeline.

The Orioles even planned to give Ortiz a MLB start in 2018, but he hurt his hamstring.

Jean Carmona will not turn 19 until late October. Despite modest numbers in rookie ball and low-A this season, scouts project Carmona as a potential big league star.

Ortiz and Carmona represent the 7 and 14 slots in the Orioles prospects list.

Unless Schoop has a significantly off-year in 2019, he will help the Brewers organization transition to one of their prospects.

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But, the Orioles could look very good in this trade if Ortiz and Carmona develop into star MLB players.

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